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The FSOTD team is overseas in the middle of Barcelona for this special Spannabis episode featuring a previous noteworthy guest, along with a literal master of extraction and overall encyclopedia of the plant.

Blackleaf sits down once again with Alex from ACTIVE Vapor Devices, and for the first time ever, with Tony from Blue River to discuss everything under the sun surrounding terps, ethers, trichomes, extraction techniques new and old, why it’s so hard to create a reliable rosin pen, the problems with repeatedly reheating oil, ceramic vs wick atomizers, different types of ceramic, why some genetics aren’t meant for solventless, why CRC killed the resin market, and so much more. You might even catch Blackleaf and Tony hitting 10-second blinkers multiple times during this pod—a rare sight.

For those that don’t remember, ACTIVE Vapor Devices designs sleek, high-performance herb vaporizers tailored for modern consumers and premium brands. The company specializes in cutting-edge hardware that preserves terpene flavor, maximizes oil efficiency, and elevates the overall vaping experience. Founder Alex leads the brand with a hands-on approach, combining deep industry knowledge with a passion for innovation. Under Alex’s leadership, ACTIVE continues to push boundaries in vape technology while delivering reliability and style.

Blue River™ is a pioneering 🍃 company renowned for its solventless extraction techniques and innovative product offerings. Founded in 2015 by Tony Verzura, a master extractor and inventor, Blue River™ introduced the world’s first 🍃-derived terpene company, significantly influencing the industry’s approach to terpene utilization. Under Verzura’s leadership, the company has expanded its product line to include signature items like Flan™, Pioca, and live rosin concentrates, all crafted without the use of solvents, emphasizing purity and quality. Blue River™ operates flagship dispos in Cambridge and Somerville, Massachusetts, offering a farm-to-table 💨 experience that highlights their commitment to sustainability and community engagement.

There’s truly no stone left unturned during this pod, and if you’ve ever hit a vape even once in your life, or taken a full 1-gram all the way down to the last drop, this episode is high-key relevant to your interests. These are two of the biggest pioneers in the hardware and solventless extraction spaces, so you can imagine the topics we dive deeper into such as the truth behind decarboxylation (what you really are getting in a dab,) the problems with perfecting a pen for resin OR rosin, whether Tony would choose BHO over solventless if it was banging enough, how Alex and Tony came together in their mission to perfect mobile extraction consumption, and how Tony will toss different oil in ACTIVE’s hardware on the fly, bringing attention to his masterpiece with them—the Axil Mini Air, designed for rosin.

In terms of where the industry is likely going with mobile vaping technology—you can’t miss a beat of this episode abroad. Once someone solves the mystery of how to create the perfect pen for rosin or resin, the future will happen fast, and ACTIVE and Blue River will likely be at the forefront.

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33 thoughts on “The Future of Vaping: Solventless, Terps & Tech with Blue River & ACTIVE

  1. 🌱 🔥Thanks for Rolling Up with Us on FSOTD! 🔥 🌱
We’re Hyped to have you with us on this Journey, as we dive deep into the heart of cannabis culture. For those craving even more Exclusive content—Early Access, Behind-the-Scenes moments, and raw “Off the Mic” footage—you’ve gotta head over to FSOTD.com. Don’t miss out! 🚀 Smash that LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and experience the full episode unedited, No commercials & Before anyone else—because your First Smoke of the Day is always the Best Smoke of the Day. Let’s keep elevating together! 💨💨💨 #CannabisCulture

  2. Hands down one of the most informative videos I’ve watched on yalls channel thus far, alex and tony have some of the most complex understandings about the plant and vape hardware, definitely made me wanna try there devices.❤

  3. Such a fun & Crazy knowledge podcast to do with 2 of the most technically saavy entrepreneurs I’ve met in the vaporization of resin space. Really cool to see Blue River x Active AVD working together on something the whole industry will benefit from. Next step is launching some for our Blackleaf Rosin in the collab pen ! ! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 what a dope Convo always with Alex & Tony !

  4. I think we all started growing bc we thought that weed could be better if we had something to do with it. I started bc I didn't like one or two things about each strain that I started with. So I thought what if I could take the best qualities of each strain and make the perfect plant? And here I am sitting here smoking my sh*t and it has all the qualities I'm looking for in a plant and my smoke. If you want something done right you gotta do it yourself.

  5. Sick show as always. Much love from the 🇬🇧👊🏾 wish my country would wake up peeps. Yes we have medical but dont see why I should have to be ill to be granted this amazing herb and for me the black market is too hit and miss and expensive. I pray for the day I can medicate peeps. Until then I just struggle on as I will never take pills again 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  6. Another banger! I wait for these videos all week. Even though this podcast did make even harder to get the brothers broadleafs now 😂. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

  7. Thanks for having me on guys! Comments are always fun to read but I do think some warrant responses.

    A) I never sand bagged anyone’s content and just ate dinner with Bubbleman in Barcelona. The beef started over him selling hemp terps back when he sold Blue River Terps in Canada nothing more. Water under the bridge.

    B) I’ve never hired a scientist to figure out how to make any of my products. I’ve never had a scientist on payroll or paid them as a consultant to make any of my Blue River products. Anyone I worked with on patents are cited in the patents… non of them are scientists.

    Does Active have an awesome team to make the Axil Mini Air with their own engineers? 100% I provided feedback and they made changes on the fly and that’s why it works.

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