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Jesse Michels is an investor & journalist known for his YouTube show “American Alchemy,” where he explores UFOs, physics, philosophy and the nature of reality. His YouTube channel features interviews with notable figures such as Jacques Vallée, Garry Nolan, Hal Puthoff, Eric Weinstein & Dave Grusch. In addition to his online endeavors, Jesse manages a venture portfolio on behalf of Thiel Capital.
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00:00 – The ‘GHOST’ agent of the UFO world
07:12 – Thomas Townsend Brown
18:08 – Investing for Peter Thiel
23:30 – Paul Bennewitz story
27:32 – UFOs & nukes
35:26 – Why did CIA hire Bob Lazar?
45:14 – Jacques Vallee’s obsession with angels & demons
48:23 – Alex Jones’ secret genius
54:25 – Varginha & Roswell UFO crashes
01:01:31 – Why do UFOs crash?
01:06:05 – Whitley Strieber & experiments on children
01:16:43 – Rogue government with alien tech
01:24:37 – Tic Tacs causing nuclear communications outage
01:32:04 – How would society react to alien disclosure?
01:39:33 – Collapse of intellectualism
01:49:39 – Skeptics
01:55:21 – Jake Barber
02:13:09 – Risk of summoning aliens
02:24:55 – Mike Masters’ alien evolution theory
02:35:46 – String theory is a limited hangout
02:54:25 – Counter-Intel & the UFO community
03:03:31 – #1 scariest alien & UFO theory
03:06:08 – Jesse’s UFO experience
03:18:57 – Censorship of alien content
03:23:30 – USAID funding UFO disinformation
03:26:29 – How the CIA made Google
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Well no matter what how many interviews Jesse gives he always brings out brand new info to makes us all excited again
thank you to Verso for ruining the show
Don’t fake Pokémon knowledge you asshats you know it’s wheezing or koffing, you know value meant the cards …. wtf is your lack there of or pretending to only vaguely remember both of you are under 38 years old pretty sure
Its crazy to see someone with a bigger nose than a joo
great interview.. but your timing for ads sucks.. it takes me out of it and is very annoying
it's not NHI. it's HI from the past. breakaway even
It's the algorithm—it's a SCAAAAMMMMM!!! IT DOES NT WORK, IT'S BROKEN, AND THEY CANNOT EVEN CONTROL OR UNDERSTAND IT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT. DOWN WITH THESE OLIGARGY TECH CORPS.
I'm done listening to these podcasts! I don't know why you, and your guests cannot have a decent intellectual discussion w/o dropping F this and F that every other word, it's ridiculous! I like to listen while I'm home cleaning, and cooking, but I do NOT need my grandchildren or parrots picking up this rot mouth talk. You should really be more professional.
Ttb in the first 10 min
Alex Jones? Really?
Disclosure is a metaphor for enlightenment. It will happen on different levels on different timeliness for different ppl.
They needed funding to build a new base so they let bob reveal the old base
Too much background and no content
Bledsoe is the Real Deal. Scary to the "Controllers". And yes, T.T. is way too "connected" to feel comfortable about.
Yes, MeaningSeeker here…
Jesse Michaels is everything Julian Dorey wants to be.
Julien is such a good Dude humble downto earth

Lester Nare said Mar 13, 2025 on "That UFO Podcast": "..David Grusch has and still does have an active top secret security clearance with active polygraph." "David Grusch can go in and provide a one-way protected disclosure to members on house oversight or any other committee without being having to do any read-in or anything if they want."" Lester Nare is Director of Operations at UAP Disclosure Fund that has such distinguished members as Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo and Dr. Garry Nolan.
Answer the uap first before we can go any further join the good fight
respect on how deep things work we just haven't been educated and you're not the ones for the job uip is that fight for the beginning oh yeah by the way we woo's gonna save us f**** all
Excellent episode!

Fukushima…harrp. Haiti, haarp, Sichuan…haarp, the residual energy leftover is evidence enough. you can find oil with 30hertz. harp use BILLIONS and it doesn't go up the way. just when you mention them and talk of them as if nuclear is somehow the reason for 'them' being around. if nuclear was the reason we would have seen them around natural radioactive places (5 left, 6 maybe) in the world. not JUST!? man-made ones. always found it odd the Haiti president blamed America for that. theres more areas. worries china so much they sent up a satellite to map it in 21/22….take the fourth kind movie too. based on the whole cam corded segments. those patients are ALREADY brainwashed. those weren't owls??…..those were people.. then washed into thinking they were these owl-like creatures. you have nooooo idea how malleable the human brain is….I watched a man TWICE make 2 separate people physically vomit just by talking to them for 27 minutes….on the button. I swear on all that I hold dear. 27 minutes each time. bang on.
90 percent of it is psy-op hahahahahaha F.A.T.E
Jesse
didn't tell bob Lazar put jet engine in honda that made him interested in area 51
With the high powered radar EVERYTHING we have produced invent THINKING about "they" know
Our thoughts are read somehow by these beings…Sounds absurd but if they are 500,000 yes ahead prob 2million why wouldn't they be able to?
‘I went to Columbia’. That’s the biggest CIA recruiting hub,no?
Pokémon nerds

I didn’t think I could like Jesse more than I do right now, but after listening to him be able to freely discuss his mind, I actually do like him even more. He’s a rare gem.
Mmmmm!
Jesse so gets me
such an intelligent dude
this feels like an insincere meeting, like they were not gonna try too hard to not seem like ops, and it left me with a question: what can I learn from a materialist-reductionist? Level one-tv reality? It's sad that we have our tax dollars used against our wisdom and intellect to make us look idiotic.
Love seeing you guys do a podcast together! By the way, on the Alex Jones calculator, he's like 70% correct on the things he's said. If those were stock market predictions they would pe pretty damn good! I've been following Alex since 911…
UFOs are AI from the future
Polarity Josh, the Aussie pretending to be neutral while virtue-signaling for Trump and Musk, is a perfect example—reaction video about another guy called Undercover ET UK and me, but instead of letting the discussion play out naturally, his audience was sent ahead to control the optics. I never come running when someone like that who's in the wrong comes calling. I did notice though he had deleted most of my previous responses, except one AI-assisted comment—probably to use as a prop. I only used AI because I had a lot to say and Josh’s little clique wasn’t worth my personal time.
And let’s be real—he’s not just shilling UFO content, he’s out here peddling far-right talking points like ‘Hamas condoms’ and ‘transgender sea turtles’ to convince people that Trump was the one bringing ‘disclosure’ while Biden was supposedly wasting money on nonsense. Anyone dumb enough to believe that garbage should not be talking about ‘truth’ in any capacity what so ever! Dudes a joke and a con that's involving himself in my country's politics for clicks and likes or worse, not cool!
When you dont understand your origin it becomes real hard to extrapolate what life on other planets will look like. When you understand that this is God's planet, made and populated with all varieties of life for the sole purpose of placing us here for experience of that abundance to test our free agency, it's easy to extrapolate that all other life bearing planets under God's hands will also have beings like "us" on them. What do you think "made in his image" means? It is, at least, literal.
Very educational but whenever he gets deep into thought he overuses the word "like" and unfortunately that drives me crazy
Hold up. Pause. "Secret Time travel Group," The Bahama's. Is this what 15% of the world population having RH Negative blood is all about????
Censoring the word sh*t and more ad time than anything else.
Meh. You suck.
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Both of you guys should have some of the scientists that participate in the Thunderbolts project on your podcasts because you're talking around the electric Universe without actually talking about the electric universe