Why This New CD Could Change Storage

38 thoughts on “Why This New CD Could Change Storage”

1. Are they rewritable?

2. Make it Rewritable Disc too.

3. Disconnected And NonTrackable Are a Luxury Future of This Time 😅

4. I still use CDs, Blu-rays discs to burn my movies, yes, you can easily just grab the movie file and play it on a usb or whatever, but I like the feeling inserting a physical movie discs in a actually player, I know for a fact if they sold these discs, it's going to be too expensive, even to this day blank Blu-ray discs are still expensive, yet no one hardly buys uses them anymore, they need to lower the prices on these discs.

5. YES! Can't wait! The only gripe I have is why can't the media or medium be square or a cube? It would be easier to fit the media into boxes and not waste space.

6. No problem. I can get it. Just release :)))

7. The disk be thick now

8. Is it just me or who else noticed the MiniDisc clip?

9. Finally a 200tb disc that can store 3 whole AAA games!!

10. well highly protected prototype software etc could be stored on these disks and id be more than happy to use one as opposed to cloud storage i prefer external hard drives usb drives etc old school

11. 8K & 16K movies are waving. TB is MB to them

12. This thing is not going to fly for many reasons. Speed is the main problem, spinning media isn't fast enough. To make it conveniently fast enough to cater to hundreds of Terabytes of traffic it has to spin so fast it turns your PC into a helicopter LOL.

13. 200 TB… is that the best you can do?

14. Greetings: U missed the part about: in the beginning CDs were only fibal voded digital. The recording and lix were analogue. About '84 they were starting 2 spit out trye digital discs.

15. It's interesting if looked in isolation, but really more of the same if you look into the history of storage research from CD onwards. Those who followed news about this at least from the Blu-ray era will know – but just to share a few tidbits.

    Between the DVD and Blu-ray era and onwards, tech news always had these periods with piles of new storage formats popping around, which would either replace Blu-ray or whatever was there at the time, or "revolutionize storage" in some way.

    Just to give some examples, here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archival_Disc (already exists, but read about future promises)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS-R
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacked_Volumetric_Optical_Disc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5D_optical_data_storage

    Those are for disc formats only. If we get out of the realm of discs, there's more:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Card
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-assisted_magnetic_recording
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_digital_data_storage
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_digital_data_storage
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterned_media
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics#Storage_media

    And then there are more concepts, experiments, ideas, prototypes and whatnot, some that have been around longer than CDs themselves, with a promise to revolutionize things in the future. Like the already mentioned Spintronics, but also:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnonics
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor#Potential_applications

    What is the problem the majority of those have? Basically the same issue of emerging battery technology that will supposedly replace Lithium – they never get to commercial scale at acceptable prices. Some are only theoretical, some have working prototypes in labs but can't be done at scale, some use existing media but the reader is unfeasible, for several the math simply did not work.

    The thing is – there is no real demand for more and more consumer level high storage anymore. It got replaced by the cloud paradigm. So really, if any of those technologies comes to replace current storage methods… people might not even learn about it. Unless we break the cloud paradigm somehow.

    One can say that this still matters for the backend, the servers in the cloud, etc – but really, do you even know what most of those are using these days? As in the data centers that are holding most of the data.

    It's HDDs, magnetic disk storage. The storage format that has been around since the mid-50s. xD

    Of course, it's newer tech with a lot of storage and fancy new improvements like Helium filled drives, or upcoming tech that we still don't know if it'll pan out like HAMR, TDMR, 3DHD and others.
    Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Development

    Even if SSDs have substantially dropped in price over the years, for operations that large every cent counts, plus things like longevity, and all sorts of considerations. So it's fully expected that HDDs will still be the majority, potentially a decade from now. Not just because they are cheap proven tech, but because there's still all this potential for improvements.

    Another thing to note – I think the best price to storage size ratio on HDDs is already hitting the 20Tb or a bit more… so, it's still 10x less capacity than the 200Tb disc, but that's at readily available commercial level and does not need a special reader for it. It's around 400 bucks.
    That 100Tb SSD is just not something on the same level… it's sold at an exceptionally high price just because it's at the top of the top for now.

    This means that with 4000 bucks you can already get one of those disks worth of storage.
    For which you'll need a lot of power (but nowhere close femto laser levels), it's of course a whole bunch heavier and bulkier than a single disc (though again, we are disconsidering the reading and writing drive necessary for usage), and it's still magnetic storage with it's longevity limitations, though newer tech has improved that side a lot too over the years.
    I mean, we're talking about different things here… discs you only have to buy one read write drive, and then just media at cheap for storage. But still.

    Thinking about creating a read-write femtosecond laser that consumes reasonable amount of power and can read and write at speeds that would make it usable requires so many huge jumps in technology that you might as well consider DNA based storage instead, with a magical machine that can encode, decode, read and do everything else needed to store data in a longer lasting way.

    The one thing left out of the video is that disc based storage doesn't last as long as most people think. At least if we're talking about materials used to make CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays. Those, well stored, with the latest tech, last longer than magnetic storage or solid state, but the materials will still degrade in a matter of decades.
    This is what the 5D optical data storage covers – making discs not with plastic, but with something like quartz or glass, so that it really can have a long life as long as it's properly stored. They are fragile if handled improperly, but if you store it in the right conditions they can last for a very long time. Then we're talking about centuries or millennia.

    Anyways, I blabbed long enough.

16. This could be my cloud storage for my cctv cameras

17. Not a chance in hell. Now a SEALED drive using some type of optical disk, maybe. No way you're taking the disk out anywhere but a clean room.

18. Dude is it scratch proof?

19. And they promesas that not be scratch like the dvd or cds i have a bad expirience my brother throw the dvd or cds intro the street AND i hate the dvd or cds 😢😢😢😢😢

20. im all in, if this means we get the return of the jiggy jiggy man

21. Will this ever reach consumer pricing? id kill for such a compact storage medium.

22. Don't think it would be stable enough to be a reliable storage solution by creating so many data layers.

23. Unless the CD has an enclosure similar to the mini disk, I don't want it.

24. technology has been developed to get a better quality of things, and some people decide to go back to cassette tapes for audio … I'll never understand 😐😐

25. Speed is the most important issue here tbh anything storing 100TB worth data and reading it at a speed of few MBPS will just fry the system tbh nothing should run this long.

26. I don't know anyone who uses cloud storage for more than school or work. For personal use most still use physical media like USB sticks.

27. I think I'll wait for Cloud storage to be replaced by Asteroid storage.

28. Some of my CD-R are no linger readable due to the sandwiched foil decayed, very sad

29. Take my money!

30. It will fail like UHDBD if there is no cheap recordable media and no pc drive

31. Slower than even the slowest hardrive most likely, useless for alot of modern programs and use cases

32. Finally Call of Duty gonna fit in only one CD

33. i would totally buy a 1.6 petabyte rewriteble cd… photos and videos are such a problem… cloud storage is crap!!!

34. The latest Llama 3 AI model is 405 billion parameters – which should take of the order of a few terabytes. Downloading something that big is already an issue. This looks like the ideal technology for super large AI models, which can be run locally.

35. Finally, a disc to store the new Call of Duty

36. I dont think physical media will be gone. But for entertainment, most of people would only buy BD/DVD when they are fans or collector. Many of us would just warch it on stream.

37. Why another disk? I want an SSD with that size in my computer.

38. Is that a MiniDisc at 5:51?

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