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Calley Means is a former food & pharma lobbyist, Dr. Jack Kruse is a neurosurgeon & Dr. Mary Bowden is a board certified otolaryngologist specializing in respiratory illness.

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Mary Bowden: https://x.com/MdBreathe
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OUTLINE
00:00:00 – Public health crisis
00:09:59 – Calling for a ban on pharma products
00:21:53 – Jack’s medical freedom law
00:30:31 – Calley Means work history
00:46:14 – Food vs Pharma
00:49:35 – Mary Bowden’s medical background
00:59:20 – Jack’s experience with ICU patients
01:00:28 – Jack on Calley’s mom & pancreatic cancer
01:11:29 – Missing death certificate
01:17:47 – Bobby Kennedy & his threat to biotechnology
01:25:26 – Hidden Agendas
01:29:32 – Censorship
01:31:46 – Council of Foreign Relations
01:33:41 – MK-ULTRA & WEF
01:44:50 – Jack’s problem w/ Joe Rogan, Andrew Huberman & Tucker Carlson
01:47:40 – Trump, Kennedy & the health state of emergency
01:52:23 – Why Jack no longer supports RFK Jr.
01:59:28 – Health propaganda
02:03:16 – How Jack would reform health in the US
02:19:55 – Calley’s link to Trump & Kennedy
02:22:22 – Lobbyists are already subverting RFK Jr.
02:29:23 – Calley’s personal opinion on mandates
02:40:51 – Strategy for making change
02:53:54 – Jacks problem with Calley
02:59:46 – DNA plasmids & SV40 promoter
03:03:46 – Calley’s commitment

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44 thoughts on “Brain Surgeon vs Pharma Lobbyist: What’s REALLY Making You Sick | Jack Kruse vs Calley Means

  1. Calley! You really think you are God’s gift to the world?!!! Patronizing, belittling, and soft voice coaching DOES NOT CUT IT ANYMORE!!!! We are sick and tired of people like you coming into the politics world selling yourselves are the Messiah that NO ONE ASKED FOR!!! You are so out of touch encause your privileged life will never allow to know how it feels to be us, THE PEOPLE. You will never lack of anything. Your life style and all of the people around you will always have a paycheck, health insurance, a roof over your head, money for GOOD MEDS, and all the best treatments in the world at your disposal. Please kindly walk yourself out of the room and f*#£uk yourself out of making decisions for others that are really suffering the consequences of your lack of action. 😡

  2. Thank you, Danny, for this brave and important discussion. I also appreciate Dr. Kruse for exposing Callie and Casey Means, their hypocrisy, and the scary connections. Since this interview, Dr. Means has now been nominated to be the Surgeon General and many of us are not happy. Where did these two all of a sudden come from? They burst onto the scene with a book focused on health that soared to the top as a best seller. Who promoted them? Their ties to technocrats, with millions dumped into Dr. Means' company, Levels, started in 2019 by some very fishy Silicon Valley technocrats reinforce the concerns we should have. Levels is portrayed as a health company to assist with monitoring health using biomarker data collections. Level's clients allow health data collected from glucose monitoring using a “filament” continuously inserted under the skin one's arm followed by AI-powered food logging to tracking one's habits with the aim to improving health. The reality is, although I was impressed early on with her and Casey's interviews, I feel now that I and other have been hoodwinked, and these new "health freedom patriots" are talismanic ventriloquist. Listening to this interview now, Dr. Kruse, I believe unashamedly makes the case that the siblings are not who they portray themselves to be.

  3. This is my first exposure to all three guests. In case anyone sees this & feels like helping me understand this dynamic:
    I don’t like the way Calley speaks so politically — he has clearly had a lot of training.
    I also felt like he was put on the defensive to such a degree that it was almost impossible to get to “the heart of the matter” (as was said many times”)

  4. Reptilian phrases:
    – flattering phrases
    – I am just like you
    – we need complete transparency
    – we need to let people make decisions
    – we need to have these conversations, we need to discuss this. (not decide and act, but discuss)

  5. Omg, so infuriating! He claims that he’s taken the jab that has SV40 in it and yet he acts like, “what, oh, I think it’s really concerning…” with a tone that is so woke. My bet, he didn’t take it at all.

  6. I’ve never heard someone state over and over and over and over, they’re coming from the heart, and deeply spiritual….yadayada! If you have to obviously state it so much to try to convince us and prove that you’re above board…well, not buying it! Not convincing at all.

  7. Holy cow, what a great interview. I watched the Tucker Carlson interview and immediately fell in love with Calley and Casey. They said all the right things. Now that I see Calley with the spotlight on him–and Jack's amazing and probing question–wow, was I snookered. Calley is NOT to be trusted at all. Thank you for letting us see the agenda behind these two!

  8. Three Fucking Hours? You have got to be kidding. Some kid in an orange cap hosting. Make a 7-minute version and if that's interesting, maybe I'd listen to more.

  9. I was wishing someone would ask Calley about recalls, whether they are food, cars, toys, etc. When manufacturers are aware of a problem, if they are honest and ethical, they announce a recall. I also wished they would ask him about the J&J shot and how that was taken off the market because of strokes. Why now, do we need to wait for transparency and openness to get the public onboard? Other companies don't get the luxury. Get the jabs off the market. Then we can have tribunals where the dark under belly is exposed. Just like in other world events, the public gets onboard, eventually. At least this time, it could be for a legitimate reason we get the public on board.

  10. Calley comes off as a FUMBLING, nervous af, insufferable POS who dances around almost ALL of Jack's questions. JC… thanks for this, Danny!

  11. What in the witch hunt is this all about? So what are they accusing him of exactly? That he's focusing on the wrong thing as a purposeful misdirect? I mean he keeps saying he agrees with them

  12. Him not even tearing up about his mom dying is wild work, but also why would he not want to say that he looked at the death certificate? He literally didn't wanna tell him???? I would be proud to have seen my mum's certificate.

  13. Can’t believe I missed this. Dr. Bowden is the best! She was one of the only sane physicians to stand up over what was going on during the farce. Unfortunately, restoration of trust is not possible as long as the dollar is the bottom line.

  14. Jack jack jack….. Jack what is the Question? "This can become a Drinking game" …. He is laughing as a Coping mechanism for nervousness.. He is choosing not to answer the Question or Continue the conversation instead saying Jack jack Jack why are you so angry? Whats your question?

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