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How did Meshuggah change metal forever? Some of what I cover in this video:
* Their early years: “Destroy Erase Improve,” “Chaosphere,” and “Nothing”
* How “Obzen” and “Bleed” were their breakthrough via Rock Band
* Their influence on djent via Misha Mansoor, Periphery, Monuments, TesseracT etc
* How they drove the use of 8-string guitars, drum programming and amp modelers

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0:00 Intro
2:53 The early years, “Obzen” & djent
8:02 Polyrhythms & “odd time signatures”
11:34 Tomas Haake’s drumming
13:11 Production, gear and guitar tone

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37 thoughts on “HOW MESHUGGAH CHANGED METAL FOREVER

  1. You get a lot of points for mentioning Sikth (in my opinion THE single most underappreciated band of all time) but I'm uncomfortable with calling them pioneers in ripping off Meshuggah, for a couple of reasons. First is that all of those other bands you mentioned (Tesseract, Periphery, Monuments) name Sikth as a massive influence on their own sound, because Sikth predated them all quite significantly. They formed in 1999, their first EP was 2001 and their first album was 2003, which was long before any of those other bands formed. Misha of Periphery utterly worships Sikth and has said a couple of times that they're the reason Periphery exists.

    Second, Sikth were obviously influenced by Meshuggah, but I don't think the influence is anywhere near as clear and obvious as it is with those other bands' early work (and I specify early work because Tesseract particularly have evolved WAY beyond what they did on their first EP and album).

    Other than that, which is really a nitpick, good video 👍

  2. Something I expected you to mention, and that I suspect plays into their relatively low commercial success/popularity (as opposed to their musical influence, which is huge), are the unrelenting and near-monotone harsh vocals.

    Yes, their early albums sound a lot like Metallica and Testament, but by their third album, and continuing throughout their career from that point on, the vocals are among the harshest you could encounter in metal – especially back in the early '90s. Yes, super harsh vocals existed, but mostly limited to death metal, which was certainly a niche genre (with nowhere near the sales of thrash or glam). A band with the sound of Meshuggah – metal, but not death metal – but with those vocals, didn't really exist anywhere else in the genre.

    Extreme/harsh vocals are a filter for many listeners, who simply won't get into any band with screams or growls. I think Meshuggah alienated a lot of potential listeners, especially back then, who simply couldn't get into the vocals – even among metal fans. They were harsher than Slayer and Sepultura, probably the closest comps for harsh(er) vocals in non-death metal (among "big" bands at the time in the metal scene).

    Their influence is huge, and obviously that's why you dedicated a relatively long video to it, but when I think of Meshuggah, the vocals are as much an immediate association as the percussive attack, down-tuned guitars, and syncopation.

  3. I saw Meshugga when they toured with TOOL back in late 2002 in KC. They are the only band I've ever seen booed off the stage. They were pissed. TOOL fans can be dicks.

  4. Polyrythm is found in all prog bands long before meshuggah. What they did is that they combined that metal core shit music (imho) with prog but more to the metal core fans liking and style. And because metal core is selling to dum dum muricans it became a thing. Its like seeing miley cyrus wearing a black sabbath or rush t shirt (gtfo).. Great musicians dont get me wrong but they didnt invent odd time signatures nor polyrythm. They combined it with death and metal core in a better way than anyone else did before them.

  5. I saw Meshuggah live at bogarts in Cincinnati. By far and away one of the most surreal and memorable experiences of my life…hard to describe for anyone who asks that doesn’t know about them. Lifelong fan of these guys

  6. rock band is not why bleed is popular… i was a huge rock band guy and bleed wasn't added until after the peak of the game. it's a well known song for its drums.

  7. Meshuggah are one of the world's most over rated bands.
    You're attributing influence to a band not that many people listen to.. How does that make sense?
    How can someone be influenced by a band they don't like and probably haven't heard before?

  8. Just dropping in to say fuck yeah for meshuggah, and also to consider making a video on Animals as Leaders? Their influence I feel is the combination of the math dudes and the metal dudes coming together (chon meets meshuggah). It's obviously way more than that, but to hear your take on it would be awesome. Cheers.

  9. hey! if we are going to talk about poly rhythms then we must invoke the greatest of all time Dann…but wait! Last night I watched the most over-rated bands video and I'm very upset and you know why.

  10. 20-25 years ago in Sweden hearing these guys for the first time when a friend put them on, it was impossible to not go "wait… who the fuck are these guys!?" and then become a fan

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