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How did Meshuggah change metal forever? Some of what I cover in this video:
* Their early years: “Destroy Erase Improve,” “Chaosphere,” and “Nothing”
* How “Obzen” and “Bleed” were their breakthrough via Rock Band
* Their influence on djent via Misha Mansoor, Periphery, Monuments, TesseracT etc
* How they drove the use of 8-string guitars, drum programming and amp modelers
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0:00 Intro
2:53 The early years, “Obzen” & djent
8:02 Polyrhythms & “odd time signatures”
11:34 Tomas Haake’s drumming
13:11 Production, gear and guitar tone
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Interestingly enough, Refused are also from Umea. Pretty good track record for a small town.
I'll put on anmother Textures record then…
Rebecca Hodgson sounds hot 🔥
they're really the only metal band who makes stuff i enjoy these days. all the others are too emo, whingy, cringe, tastelessly crass or just generic
You get a lot of points for mentioning Sikth (in my opinion THE single most underappreciated band of all time) but I'm uncomfortable with calling them pioneers in ripping off Meshuggah, for a couple of reasons. First is that all of those other bands you mentioned (Tesseract, Periphery, Monuments) name Sikth as a massive influence on their own sound, because Sikth predated them all quite significantly. They formed in 1999, their first EP was 2001 and their first album was 2003, which was long before any of those other bands formed. Misha of Periphery utterly worships Sikth and has said a couple of times that they're the reason Periphery exists.
Second, Sikth were obviously influenced by Meshuggah, but I don't think the influence is anywhere near as clear and obvious as it is with those other bands' early work (and I specify early work because Tesseract particularly have evolved WAY beyond what they did on their first EP and album).
Other than that, which is really a nitpick, good video 👍
You lost me with your reference to Linking Park followed by crass commercial support for a mattress company. Take a hike!
Flynn’s a puss! Foh!
New record is insane by the way
Something I expected you to mention, and that I suspect plays into their relatively low commercial success/popularity (as opposed to their musical influence, which is huge), are the unrelenting and near-monotone harsh vocals.
Yes, their early albums sound a lot like Metallica and Testament, but by their third album, and continuing throughout their career from that point on, the vocals are among the harshest you could encounter in metal – especially back in the early '90s. Yes, super harsh vocals existed, but mostly limited to death metal, which was certainly a niche genre (with nowhere near the sales of thrash or glam). A band with the sound of Meshuggah – metal, but not death metal – but with those vocals, didn't really exist anywhere else in the genre.
Extreme/harsh vocals are a filter for many listeners, who simply won't get into any band with screams or growls. I think Meshuggah alienated a lot of potential listeners, especially back then, who simply couldn't get into the vocals – even among metal fans. They were harsher than Slayer and Sepultura, probably the closest comps for harsh(er) vocals in non-death metal (among "big" bands at the time in the metal scene).
Their influence is huge, and obviously that's why you dedicated a relatively long video to it, but when I think of Meshuggah, the vocals are as much an immediate association as the percussive attack, down-tuned guitars, and syncopation.
I absolutely love Meshuggah. I've had my wife with me at a few of their concerts. LOL
God they are so awesome
The best part of Meshuggah is their live show…sounds and lights. It is a life-changing experience that NO other band can compete with
cant describe the love i have for this band
Slipknot and linkin park. Wtf. This guy
The original 2002 version of Nothing recorded with 7 string guitars sounds better
Future Breed Machine was the song that did it for me too
“Beneath” is one my all time favorite jams.
What does the name mean?
I saw Meshugga when they toured with TOOL back in late 2002 in KC. They are the only band I've ever seen booed off the stage. They were pissed. TOOL fans can be dicks.
They really do deserve all the accolades and high praise heaped on them here in your great analysis. Meshuggah changed the world.
Polyrythm is found in all prog bands long before meshuggah. What they did is that they combined that metal core shit music (imho) with prog but more to the metal core fans liking and style. And because metal core is selling to dum dum muricans it became a thing. Its like seeing miley cyrus wearing a black sabbath or rush t shirt (gtfo).. Great musicians dont get me wrong but they didnt invent odd time signatures nor polyrythm. They combined it with death and metal core in a better way than anyone else did before them.
Just mentioning Cynic got you a new sub
Not a huge metal town Umeå. But bands like Abhinanda, and Refused 2 huge Straight Edge bands came out of there in the early – mid 90s in the swedish skatepunk scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tB2FD6V9FI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkAe30aEG5c
I saw Meshuggah live at bogarts in Cincinnati. By far and away one of the most surreal and memorable experiences of my life…hard to describe for anyone who asks that doesn’t know about them. Lifelong fan of these guys
If you're into Tesseract and Monuments, you gotta check out Fellsilent
rock band is not why bleed is popular… i was a huge rock band guy and bleed wasn't added until after the peak of the game. it's a well known song for its drums.
God loves y’all so much he sent Jesus his one and only begotten son to die on the cross for us and for our sin so pls just give him his time of day
In regards to your closing comment, I think imitation is one of the highest forms of flattery.
listen punk, never ever compare Meshuggah to fucking slipknot or linkin park ever again….. ;(
Meshuggah are one of the world's most over rated bands.
You're attributing influence to a band not that many people listen to.. How does that make sense?
How can someone be influenced by a band they don't like and probably haven't heard before?
Just dropping in to say fuck yeah for meshuggah, and also to consider making a video on Animals as Leaders? Their influence I feel is the combination of the math dudes and the metal dudes coming together (chon meets meshuggah). It's obviously way more than that, but to hear your take on it would be awesome. Cheers.
Did you seriously put Meshuggah in the same category as slipknot and linken park? You just lost all credibility.
My math teacher who is also a drummer and good friends with thomas used dont look down as a math excersice.
hey! if we are going to talk about poly rhythms then we must invoke the greatest of all time Dann…but wait! Last night I watched the most over-rated bands video and I'm very upset and you know why.
20-25 years ago in Sweden hearing these guys for the first time when a friend put them on, it was impossible to not go "wait… who the fuck are these guys!?" and then become a fan
First time I hear someone put Meshuggah and Linkin Park in the same sentence