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We The Growers sits with Chris from Ghostbudsters and Chris Durand, head of Manufacturing at Athena. They go over how defoliation rates will affect the overall run, the differences between the EC recommendations between Blended and Pro Line, and also cover how state taxes and regulations are holding cultivators back from running a profitable business.
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:05 How long have you been growing? How did you get into it?
00:03:03 “Cultivation is Math and Science.”
00:03:47 How the experience with Chris’ friends daughter ignited his passion
00:04:28 Getting into growing with a 9-5
00:04:57 Getting raided in a legal facility
00:04:45 Leaving your 9-5 to grow full time
00:06:45 Working to finalize newest formulations on the Blended Line with Fade
00:08:16 Testing results of Blended with Fade
00:08:50 How defoliation rates affect your run
00:10:59 Athena Handbook and honing your craft as Cultivator
00:11:58 “Are you still doing a defoliation later in flower while using Fade”
00:13:50 “What would you see if a guy was using Fade too early?”
00:14:49 Using the Athena Handbook
00:16:04 Hash Returns while using Fade earlier vs. later
00:18:23 What Athena R&D has been working on
00:21:33 Athena’s Quality Control
00:24:07 Listening to feedback from Growers
00:28:13 Solving problems as a Grower
00:28:27 Improvements in Pro Line
00:34:15 Working with Tony Buckets on DWC Athena Feed Chart
00:41:21 When Athena DWC SOP will be ready to launch
00:41:50 Jay with Athena
00:42:40 Dialing in your Systems
00:46:30 “Get your eyes on the Garden”
00:49:13 Working with the team at Athena
00:49:40 Being a Leader as a Business Owner
00:50:30 State and City Taxes on Cannabis Products and Cannabis moving to Schedule 3
00:54:29 “The white market is the black market.”
00:56:14 Dispensaries, Distributors, Buyers not paying Growers
01:00:42 “If you don’t pay your bills, you shouldn’t be able to have a license.”
01:00:58 State Taxes, Licensing, and Regulations
01:05:30 “It’s unfortunate that we’ve gotten to this place where it’s normal not to pay people.”
01:07:02 Stories from the Traditional Market
01:09:16 Running a business in a hyper competitive market
01:10:25 Athena delivering a quality product
01:13:20 Q&A From Growers
01:13:22 “Chris, talk about the difference between EC recommendations between Blended Line and Pro Line”
01:14:14 “How to avoid tip burn on Pro Line at 3.0 EC all the way?”
01:22:02 “What’s the primary driver for terps and THC?”
01:31:00 “Thoughts of eliminating grow and using core bloom from clone to harvest. What do you think about guys using bloom through veg?”
01:33:44 “How long should you wait in between mixing the different parts?”
01:39:15 “Talk about mixing practices more in depth with Balance Pro and Pro Line”
01:44:35 “If the tank goes cloudy between core and bloom, should the feed be written off and started over?”
01:45:43 “Why are ratios between metric and imperial different?”
01:46:59 “What are the effects of using Fade longer than recommended?”
01:50:08 “How do you recommend topping a batch tank or topping up a DWC?”
01:52:57 “How do you avoid hollow stems?”
01:56:12 “Using Blended Line is there too much Nitrogen and CalMag to use it at the back half of flower?”
01:56:54 “The correct way to raise or lower the runoff pH during Vegetive and Generative states?”
02:01:36 “Favorite terp profile, favorite single terp, what do you look for in a cultivar as a keeper?”
02:06:06 “What do you think about pound prices in Michigan, and what are your future expectations? Do you think they will go back up and do you think people can secure a better price?”
02:11:12 “How do you guys run the taper to finish the line and drybacks once you pass bulking phase?”
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Athena will be just like luxx lights ….. discontinued ….when everyone switches to living soil , salts wont be needed they only survive from commercial grow sales . Thats why luxx failed …. china made the same leds for like $400
One harvest a month sounds crazy. Not sure how many flower rooms he has but 12 drops a year sounds like a recipe for going out of business especially if you’re not vertically integrated.
I dropped my core down to 40 % after weeek 3 F and then switched it for fade I was told by some one at Athena I can drop to 30 then switch to fade
need to add financing to these disp that dont pay upfront atleast past 30 days apr after that
That monstera is hungry.
Why wouldnt you flush w just water? The medium still has nutes and the plant still has nutes in itself that it will consume …is that not how you get the cleanest flower and shock the plant with no food and cold water?
Thanks for informations ☺️ i'm in for the Instagram giveaway 🥰
Use the Athena IPM and balance for ph up
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I need beans my guy lets goooo! Im pumped for the contest and cant wait! Praying I win I need this more than my next breath of air literally I'm flat broke and went through my last genetics and all the beans aren't popping I hate to say it but Ocean Grown has failed me Relentless genetics has failed me mainly on just this run I'm sure they're genetics are fine I just got dealt the s*** hand AKA I need this!!!
Good shit!
The Q and A segments are the best.. teach us .. I almost guarantee that's what people tune in for…
Marijuana is a magic
Very informative! I’m so out of date w my Athena Program! I look forward to the update. I need to watch and listen more! I feel like I need to just start over.
I’ve seen hard brick bags cause larger problems in flower due to the calcium being fried from fallout in the bag. But it’s nice they finally publicly addressed that problem, after I was told originally there was no chance this was an issue. I’ve went through thousands of bags and the new stuff is so much better and the bags are heavier duty. Definitely a change for the better.
I'm actually already using blended with fade. Surprisingly I ran it at 10 -10 ml. Works great boys! Excellent work!
great show !
YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! Answered all 3 of my questions, and then answered questions I didnt know I had. Thank you!🙌
If you don't recomend flushing with just watering during flowering what do you recomend to do for lowering ec ?
I've been liking dry stresses mid way in to flower
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Fade for 14 full days if I do a 3 day just water and cleanse ? Or 11 days of fade and 3 days of just water and cleanse ?
Thanks for the great info as always!
If you’re lowering the amount of balance in flower then how are you getting your ph to where you want it to be ? Personally I need to use 200 ml of blended balance to the pro line per 60 gallon reservoir to get the ph to between 5.8-6.1
I can say I’ve been growing for 40 years. Athena has been A game changer. The quality, both looks and terps is unprecedented. I’m a tier 2 in Washington and can’t say thank you enough
Great episode as always
I thought you add the core first?
Big props to Athena" Absolutely amazing team and product 🙌🙌🙌
Ooo H*ll yeahhh⛽️ love this content always nice too see a new upload
Listening to feedback. I do hope Athena sticks by this in the coming years and continues with support. It's amazing how well connected you are with your customers.
Its like, however many gram's per square foot is an option, man.😂
Yes!