Does Switching to Organic Save on Garden Expenses? – FTS Clips

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1. Don't synthetic growers also have to keep buying new growing medium?

2. A quick look at prices in the produce aisle should answer this question. If the math was as simple as "spend less, get the same, sell it for more" then no commercial operation would be left growing with industrially synthesized nutrients because there would be no reason to.

3. Yes you will, if you use the expensive b.s. they sell at the hydro store. Try using jacks hydroponic 321 formula. Part a and part b can be bought in 20# bags, for cheap, and it makes enough nutes to last you years. You just need a bag of epsom salt as part c. It's also better than any of that overpriced crap!

4. I switched to organic last year. Used to use fox farm with a 10 part nutrient lineup and ph water daily. Now i use stepwell ssw with gaia green organics and dynamyko. 170$ lasts me 2-3 rounds from seed to harvest. Growing synthetic i couldn't even buy the nutrients for under 230$ not including 2 bags of foxfarm per round/seed to harvest.

5. By buying a years worth of nutrients at a time my organic home grow nutrient costs are less than $4/plant. (I do save a buck or two per plant by producing my own worm compost, etc.)

6. KNF is the way, especially in a raised bed

7. JADAM ferments can reduce costs massively.

8. Love the way chris thinks and explains things very smart man

9. Organic all the way! So much better, simple just letting the soil do it’s thing. Down to earth amendments or Gaia green are awesome and you can add some Mykos during transplant and some recharge microbes once a week and that’s it. Plants are happy

10. I grow both ways. I love the simplicity of organics but I love the control of synthetic. Jacks 321 .

    But Masterblend just came out with a brand new cannabis specific line. 67$ for 25 pound bag and calnit at 15$ 25lb.

    Can’t be beat as far as how cheap it is.
    It’s got everything the plant needs in their proper ratio. I got a bag on order throgh custom hydro..
    Athena pro is the same but 10 times as expensive.

    Cost per plant Masterblend 0-12-24 is where it’s at .

11. The price of bottled nutrients has been increasing recently. Feeding a DWC bucket for 12 weeks cost about $3.50 U.S. Energy rates have risen too. The cost of running the air pump is about twenty cents.

12. #organic

13. In the UK this is a no brainer. Ecothrive Life-Cyle [ or Charge warm fras) plus some high P guano (Plagron or Guanokolong) will give you all the nutrition your plants need.

    5L buckets will feed many plants for many many grows for less than a typical full bottled regime (which would do little more than two hobby grows.)

    Sure I add microbes and bacteria but you don't have to as the fras and so on adds plenty.

14. I was just thinking a few days ago what nutrients am I gonna buy without breaking the bank. Buying these 250ml bottles to finish runs seems stupid. several 1 liter buys adds the fuk up quick and when u run coco its worse.

15. I have a question for you guys. I recently switched from a ts600 to a ts1000 dimmed to 25% for seedling and clones…….oh my lord what a massive change for the better. The scientific word for the growth rate is "crazy fast".
    They are doing 4 times better that anything I've ever grown hands down.
    When should I increase the dimmer?? I'm afraid of burning the leaves lol

16. If you live rurally and have animals, you can make your own organic compost, which is like 40% of my soil mix. That's savings!

17. I'm a UK indoor grower prohibition land but going organic is alot cheaper and easier and the favours I'm getting now is amazing just wish lectric was cheaper they taking piss with that but it's still saves me shitloads ounce a week smoker love it

18. Gh maxibloom from start to finish. Love the simplicity

19. nothing is gonna beat salts in hydro for cost per gram, especially the more you scale up.

20. Thumbs up 190

21. Organic flavor soo much more terpenes yo🔥🔥🔥

22. What about a hybrid method. (The best of both worlds) start organic and finishing synthetic. It cheaper and simple. I.E. starting with farmfox (cheapest organic soil about $15 to $20) then after 30 to 40 days feed synthetic nuts…i run the numbers and it's the cheapests way and you could reuse the soil.

23. ORGANIC IS A WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM PROPOSAL

24. Not really… salts like calcium nitrate are sold in 50 pounds bags for like 50 or 60 bucks… 1.2kg makes 10l and you only use like 4-12ml per L in water when feeding.. add a pk booster and a base and your good. Buying bottle nutrients that's 90% water is expensive and stupid, buying salts in bulk is basically free.

25. PS I love you guys

26. What's your footprint going to be?
    You guys all grow and differently what does it cost you per plant at the end of the year if you were to have to pay for them lol
    I'm hoping that I can keep reusing my soil keeping it alive for me so much easier no over feeding shit,
    Biology easier to understand than to be a cements plant doctor What do I need to do. Fuck that plus every one's yards clean compost lol

27. I just go half perlite half petemoss. Synthetic grow all the way zero fungus gnats zero bugs all together actually. And just use Miracle-Gro for the first 2 months and get crazy on the second two months fertilize every other watering half a gallon for 2 gallon pots water every other day as far as getting rid of your soil I don't use soil but I still throw it out don't be cheap buy a truck

28. I grow in a 4×4 fabric bed with living soil and it definitely saves me money, I have not bought soil in 2 years , I rarely use any amendments since I have worms in soil and they naturally produce worm casting , I also make my own ferments out of fruits using the KNF method which is very cost effective, best decision I ever made was going full organic, and the quality is usually good 👍

29. 💯 Living organics best

30. Living soil you keep using it just add to it synthetics salts kill the base

31. Add in the ph up and down.

32. Stay away from those freedom units boys 😅….awesome vid thanks fellas

33. Metric measurements per purchase: One purchase of all ingredients will last almost two grows for an avg 8 plant count in 7gals.
    1kg Myco
    1kg Azomite
    1kg DE
    1kg Kelp meal
    1kg Alfalfa meal
    1kg Seabird guano
    1kg SSP
    1kg Sulphate of Potash
    2kg Frass
    5kg Worm castings.
    +Added extras like homemade compost & teas… and also 2-5 grams of Creatine premixed in.
    All together I’m spending around $150 for approx 2 runs.

34. I run both, synthetics with some organic supplements and full organic in soil. If you want to do it at a high level, it is more $, and more effort, for sure. If you want to yield in organic soil you need a good volume…at 80lbs per cubic foot, that can be too much for some. You won’t grow the 🔥 on a budget either way 💯.

    Organic growing feels more satisfying, you are more actively involved in the process I feel.

35. depends on what brand of nutes you buy . Ive asked nute companies to price my grow for me & often shocked how expensive some nutes are ..both organic & synthetic .
    Also depends where you live for example Floraflex starter pack in USA is 60 bucks but in Europe double that . 😎

36. Good topic. I reuse soil, cheeper to reamend old soil, than to buy new. It's going to cost y $ eather way!

37. Blends are not the best. It’s better to soil test and buy bulk individual ingredients to top dress. It’s miles cheaper than synthetic and organic bottled nutes✌️

38. I say absolutely yes to cheaper going organic. Nutrients go so much further. I make teas. I top dress. All in flower. I don't need anything during veg. because soil comes amended.

39. FTS RESPECT!

40. My living soil is turning to dust and holds to much water. Synthetic hydro can be very cheap if you skip additives.

41. I enjoy these debatable topics as long as everyone cam remain logical. There was some missing information for me as far as the pot size and break down for common grow ie. Pot sizes for entire grow and mixtures of both organic and dry amendments. This is a super topic and my two cents are almost spent. Lastly, organic rules supreme when referring to consumption and I prefer organic amendments to an atmospheric balanced soil mixture, coco and perlite is my common choice but recently the coco/perlite home organic waste mixture is making my hairs stand with results. Let it be known that the four horsemen (Pidgeons, Chris, Wink, Rob) are here for the CORElture.

42. I know it's hard to throw numbers out there. But, for Chris i was hoping to hear some sort of % or ballpark on what he saves using craft blend. I'm pretty sure it's cheaper by a lot but I didn't even compare prices because I wasn't down with the flush game lol

43. Definitely a great talk boys great show ✌💨💨

44. Since switching to organics – it feels so much simpler. No fear of nutrient issues, less stress on PH and feeding the girls rarely. I am happy I did liquid nutes…..but I am never going back to those synthetic nutrients again. "Feed the soil- not the plant"

45. Less yield for less with organic and more for more with hydro/synthetics. I will take hydro every day. I have been in the nursery industry for 41 years and have done everything from running tree farms, commercial nursery production, garden center management, to 1/4 acre personal vegetable gardens. That does not make me an expert, but i have a tiny bit of personal experience i can share, take it or leave it.

    You cannot beat the yield, versatility, and ease of hydro over organics in an indoor environment. Indoor organics is the "woke bro science" flavor of the month like shag carpet, pet rocks, and Vanilla Ice were in their fields. I'm not knocking it or those that practice it, it just does not work the same. Synthetic fertilizers have changed the ability of the world to produce food and reduce starvation, so much so it can be used as a weapon against 3rd world countries economies. Good or bad for the environment, it works better for yields. If growing organic make you feel better like having a Chihuahua vs a Golden Retriever, good for you. We all know they are not the same and comparing the two is silly other than a point of conversation like talking about the weather. Somebody is going to comment about "quality". It just doesn't work like that unless your regurgitating bro science. Arsenic and Radon are organic, but we dont want to be around either of those.

46. I fuks wit Rob lol he always keeps something lit!!!! Y'all got a good thing going here. A lot of good info.

47. Switched organic and in a new environment been struggling little bit these days

48. always less yield with organic, compared to coco and nutes

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